Are you from a film school????

theuglykidscat · 3 August 2006, 18:52

Hello every human being in the Ireland,

As i am just a small child i do not know many things. Are you all from big school?Have you all studied the film making subject thing?Where did you do it?Was it nice?Or not nice?My daddy told me film school makes you loose interest in film.That you just do bold things and never really make anything good.Is this true?
What is best film study place?
Help me with answers please.

xxx

blade · 3 August 2006, 19:28

hello theuglykidscat.
I like your treads cos you aren't afraid to stir things up. keep them coming.

your question is very deep and a wiser man would not try to answer it.
Every school is the same and they all contain people who would try teach you the principles of the art that is filmmaking...
Do these people suck??? possibly.
However sometimes it is a students wish to achieve higher than their masters is the very thing which propells them to greatness...

If you choose a school then i recommend you to be practical:

Location/Convience
Cost
Equipment available...

theuglykidscat · 4 August 2006, 18:42

Aloha people,

I'm contacting you from sunny hawaii. Would it be offensive to suggest films schools are pointless? Each night my daddy reads me a filmbook before I go to sleepy land. i learn lots but hunger for chance to make things. is this like film school? Do you just sit and listen and not get many chances to actually make things? This would seem very unfair, espescially if you have paid a lot of money to do it.

Are film schools doing a dis-service to young innocent children? Is there a stigma attached to being a film student nowadays?

The68Gun · 8 August 2006, 10:19

My advice would be to consider finishing your primary and then second level education before deciding what course your further education will take. Might well be some years yet given your current level of literacy...

Hugh O'Brien · 8 August 2006, 11:55

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Originally Posted by theuglykidscat

Aloha people,

I'm contacting you from sunny hawaii. Would it be offensive to suggest films schools are pointless? Each night my daddy reads me a filmbook before I go to sleepy land. i learn lots but hunger for chance to make things. is this like film school? Do you just sit and listen and not get many chances to actually make things? This would seem very unfair, espescially if you have paid a lot of money to do it.

Are film schools doing a dis-service to young innocent children? Is there a stigma attached to being a film student nowadays?

A lot of the time it's pot luck. I did a course that, on it's schedule, we were to do feck all film making. We were lucky enough to have a lecturer who said "to hell with this" and just did practical work using lights and cameras. In the end, we left the course and convinced the lecturer to do his own course, and it was fantastic.

You will learn stuff from a theory course, but I'd always go for the more practical of courses!

Devin · 8 August 2006, 13:25

I worked with a very experienced DP on my 'first' short (the quotes are there because the film was a demo - my next short will be my official First Film). He didn't feel film school was necessary, and if anything felt it may often be detrimental to one's education. There's two sides to it - a film school can give one an education in the technical and business sides of the industry that's hard to pick up elsewhere (but not impossible, of course), along with access to contacts, a couple of student film credits...; a bad school can also destroy one's creativity with rules.

Robert Rodriguez didn't get into film school so after making a load of his own no-budget shorts he wrote, produced, directed, shot, edited and sold El Mariachi for $7,000 (note how he spent his own $7,000, he didn't try to get his unpaid cast and crew to pay for it).

IMO: Film school - not necessary, but not necessarily a bad thing either. Me, I'm waiting to hear what this ScreenStudio@Filmbase.ie will be about (see the ads in Film Ireland last month) - Vinny Murphy asked some of his short-course students would they be up for an intensive, part-time nine-month course that would in effect be film school without the academic requirements. Now that would suit me down to the ground. The idea is that a director will come out at the end with a high-quality short film, and a screenwriter will come out with a solid feature script. He didn't mention actors, but the ad did. Still waiting for a reply to my e-mail.

Jason Butler · 8 August 2006, 14:09

Point by point:

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film school makes you loose interest in film

Lots of things can make you lose interest in film. Probably same thing could be said of dentistry and dentistry school. Not everyone that goes to film school ends up being a successful filmmaker. Not strictly the fault of film school as a concept.

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Would it be offensive to suggest films schools are pointless?

No it wouldn't be offensive. Just stupid. When is education/knowledge/learning ever pointless?

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Is there a stigma attached to being a film student nowadays?

"Oh I heard Bryan Singer went to film school" - "Really and I thought Usual Suspects/X-Men2/Superman Returns were good films" - "Yeah you think you know some people then you find out they had an interest in something and decided to spend time educating themselves about it" - "I know if I went to film school I wouldn't tell anyone as there's such a stigma attached"... Utter nonsense.

Personally I think that educational courses, film or otherwise, should be a balance of practical and theory. Learning how to operate a Sony PD170 may not help you operate an AATON XTR S16mm camera whereas learning about the theory of light would be applicable in both (all) cases.

Film school / film education may not be neccesary but I can't see how it could ever really be considered bad.

theuglykidscat · 8 August 2006, 18:23

Yeah baby, keep it coming!

What i'm getting at is the way film schools are run not the idea of learning about filmmaking. Whats the difference between a 'good' school and a 'bad' one?How do you judge it?

3 August 2006, 18:52	#1
theuglykidscat snake charmers boy Dublin City Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73	Are you from a film school???? Hello every human being in the Ireland, As i am just a small child i do not know many things. Are you all from big school?Have you all studied the film making subject thing?Where did you do it?Was it nice?Or not nice?My daddy told me film school makes you loose interest in film.That you just do bold things and never really make anything good.Is this true? What is best film study place? Help me with answers please. xxx

8 August 2006, 13:25	#6
Devin Writer-director Dublin City Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,193	Film school I worked with a very experienced DP on my 'first' short (the quotes are there because the film was a demo - my next short will be my official First Film). He didn't feel film school was necessary, and if anything felt it may often be detrimental to one's education. There's two sides to it - a film school can give one an education in the technical and business sides of the industry that's hard to pick up elsewhere (but not impossible, of course), along with access to contacts, a couple of student film credits...; a bad school can also destroy one's creativity with rules. Robert Rodriguez didn't get into film school so after making a load of his own no-budget shorts he wrote, produced, directed, shot, edited and sold El Mariachi for $7,000 (note how he spent his own $7,000, he didn't try to get his unpaid cast and crew to pay for it). IMO: Film school - not necessary, but not necessarily a bad thing either. Me, I'm waiting to hear what this ScreenStudio@Filmbase.ie will be about (see the ads in Film Ireland last month) - Vinny Murphy asked some of his short-course students would they be up for an intensive, part-time nine-month course that would in effect be film school without the academic requirements. Now that would suit me down to the ground. The idea is that a director will come out at the end with a high-quality short film, and a screenwriter will come out with a solid feature script. He didn't mention actors, but the ad did. Still waiting for a reply to my e-mail.

3 August 2006, 19:28	#2
blade .... .... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 25	hello theuglykidscat. I like your treads cos you aren't afraid to stir things up. keep them coming. your question is very deep and a wiser man would not try to answer it. Every school is the same and they all contain people who would try teach you the principles of the art that is filmmaking... Do these people suck??? possibly. However sometimes it is a students wish to achieve higher than their masters is the very thing which propells them to greatness... If you choose a school then i recommend you to be practical: Location/Convience Cost Equipment available...

4 August 2006, 18:42	#3
theuglykidscat snake charmers boy Dublin City Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73	Aloha people, I'm contacting you from sunny hawaii. Would it be offensive to suggest films schools are pointless? Each night my daddy reads me a filmbook before I go to sleepy land. i learn lots but hunger for chance to make things. is this like film school? Do you just sit and listen and not get many chances to actually make things? This would seem very unfair, espescially if you have paid a lot of money to do it. Are film schools doing a dis-service to young innocent children? Is there a stigma attached to being a film student nowadays?

8 August 2006, 10:19	#4
The68Gun Writer / Director Dublin City Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 27	My advice would be to consider finishing your primary and then second level education before deciding what course your further education will take. Might well be some years yet given your current level of literacy...

8 August 2006, 18:23	#8
theuglykidscat snake charmers boy Dublin City Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73	Yeah baby, keep it coming! What i'm getting at is the way film schools are run not the idea of learning about filmmaking. Whats the difference between a 'good' school and a 'bad' one?How do you judge it?

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